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Cool Thanks for the advice people, Ill do what you say and get into the eyes first then move on to the other parts of the face.

angelerin5 sure ill try that video whatever i can get might end up being different from the other one i found so i am willing to give it a go. If you got any others for beginners feel free to give those too.

misaa where did u get those books? what where the books specificly? if they are on amazon or something ill order them off there.

kitkatlord tablet good idea, sounds like pc drawing is hard, i did kinda think pc would be easier since u can do perfect circles, use rulers, and draw perfect lines like that all inside the programs, i guess it isnt easier to draw on the pc sounds harder if anything else. Ill stick with pen and pencil for now then.

Thanks again for the starter advice everyone.

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